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	<title>Comments on: Carolina Injuries - Bad Training, Bad Skates, or Bad Luck?</title>
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		<title>By: Rutherford Putting The Heat On Freisen at 850 &#38; 620 THE BLOG</title>
		<link>http://canescountry.com/blog/2008/10/02/carolina-injuries-bad-training-bad-skates-or-bad-luck/#comment-155280</link>
		<dc:creator>Rutherford Putting The Heat On Freisen at 850 &#38; 620 THE BLOG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 16:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] what if it is a coincidence? Outside of the Justin Williams Achilles tendon injury that occurred during an NFL style shuttle run, I can&#8217;t find the connection to Friesen&#8217;s training program. Matt Cullen is recovering [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] what if it is a coincidence? Outside of the Justin Williams Achilles tendon injury that occurred during an NFL style shuttle run, I can&#8217;t find the connection to Friesen&#8217;s training program. Matt Cullen is recovering [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rutherford to Change Training Methods in Carolina : Canes Country</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rutherford to Change Training Methods in Carolina : Canes Country</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 05:35:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] course, injuries are nothing new to this franchise. We posted an article related to the subject on Canes Country just a few days ago and speculated that some of the players [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] course, injuries are nothing new to this franchise. We posted an article related to the subject on Canes Country just a few days ago and speculated that some of the players [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mateo</title>
		<link>http://canescountry.com/blog/2008/10/02/carolina-injuries-bad-training-bad-skates-or-bad-luck/#comment-154428</link>
		<dc:creator>Mateo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 20:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah....  I did forget about his "head injury."

I've always liked Wallin....  but he is too much of a slow starter...  and I don't know if we can afford too much of that this season....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah&#8230;.  I did forget about his &#8220;head injury.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve always liked Wallin&#8230;.  but he is too much of a slow starter&#8230;  and I don&#8217;t know if we can afford too much of that this season&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Bubba</title>
		<link>http://canescountry.com/blog/2008/10/02/carolina-injuries-bad-training-bad-skates-or-bad-luck/#comment-154394</link>
		<dc:creator>Bubba</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:45:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mateo for posting the lineups, and you and Cory are right about Wallin's no trade.  That makes it difficult if not impossible to trade him.  But he's injured for now, so it's a moot point at the moment.

I'll post an article about who I think should be the top 6 defensemen after the last preseason game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mateo for posting the lineups, and you and Cory are right about Wallin&#8217;s no trade.  That makes it difficult if not impossible to trade him.  But he&#8217;s injured for now, so it&#8217;s a moot point at the moment.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll post an article about who I think should be the top 6 defensemen after the last preseason game.</p>
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		<title>By: Mateo</title>
		<link>http://canescountry.com/blog/2008/10/02/carolina-injuries-bad-training-bad-skates-or-bad-luck/#comment-154393</link>
		<dc:creator>Mateo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also keep in mind...  Gillies is probably headed to Albany....  and when Brind'Amour comes back then we will have enough forwards for 4 lines (if Sutter sticks around) and the extra d-man (Rodney? Wallin?) would have to be a scratch...  

So things are shaping up for opening night more than we may think...  who knows?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also keep in mind&#8230;  Gillies is probably headed to Albany&#8230;.  and when Brind&#8217;Amour comes back then we will have enough forwards for 4 lines (if Sutter sticks around) and the extra d-man (Rodney? Wallin?) would have to be a scratch&#8230;  </p>
<p>So things are shaping up for opening night more than we may think&#8230;  who knows?</p>
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		<title>By: Mateo</title>
		<link>http://canescountry.com/blog/2008/10/02/carolina-injuries-bad-training-bad-skates-or-bad-luck/#comment-154392</link>
		<dc:creator>Mateo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wallin has that dang no-trade though!  And he isn't afraid to use it...

Although a cut in playing time could change his feelings on it...  and you can't blame a guy for wanting to stick in one place.  

I am not one of those who thinks that Wallin is horrible...  and I'm not fooled into thinking he is the greatest defensive player on the ice either....  somwhere in between is where he falls with me...  But yeah...  he is usually a slow starter.... and ALWAYS peaks at about the middle of round 2 of the playoffs....  

I'm not sure how this discussion got so off topic...  but for what it is worth...  CH.com has the lineup for tonight as:

Samsonov - Staal - Eaves
Helminen - Cullen - Bayda
LaRose - Sutter - LaCouture
Gillies - Jensen

Pitkanen - Gleason
Kaberle - Seidenberg
Melichar - Babchuk
Rodney

Ward
Leighton

This is the 7 d-men and 2-spare forwards (rolling 3 lines) approach that coach Lavi has used on many occasions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wallin has that dang no-trade though!  And he isn&#8217;t afraid to use it&#8230;</p>
<p>Although a cut in playing time could change his feelings on it&#8230;  and you can&#8217;t blame a guy for wanting to stick in one place.  </p>
<p>I am not one of those who thinks that Wallin is horrible&#8230;  and I&#8217;m not fooled into thinking he is the greatest defensive player on the ice either&#8230;.  somwhere in between is where he falls with me&#8230;  But yeah&#8230;  he is usually a slow starter&#8230;. and ALWAYS peaks at about the middle of round 2 of the playoffs&#8230;.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure how this discussion got so off topic&#8230;  but for what it is worth&#8230;  CH.com has the lineup for tonight as:</p>
<p>Samsonov - Staal - Eaves<br />
Helminen - Cullen - Bayda<br />
LaRose - Sutter - LaCouture<br />
Gillies - Jensen</p>
<p>Pitkanen - Gleason<br />
Kaberle - Seidenberg<br />
Melichar - Babchuk<br />
Rodney</p>
<p>Ward<br />
Leighton</p>
<p>This is the 7 d-men and 2-spare forwards (rolling 3 lines) approach that coach Lavi has used on many occasions.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They need to have Wallin waive his no-trade — and he's already said no once in the past. I think Frank's in, but I'm not so sure on Seidenberg being a lock yet. There are four guy who all bring diff. things to the table, so it'll be interesting to see how it hashes out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They need to have Wallin waive his no-trade — and he&#8217;s already said no once in the past. I think Frank&#8217;s in, but I&#8217;m not so sure on Seidenberg being a lock yet. There are four guy who all bring diff. things to the table, so it&#8217;ll be interesting to see how it hashes out.</p>
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		<title>By: TylerA</title>
		<link>http://canescountry.com/blog/2008/10/02/carolina-injuries-bad-training-bad-skates-or-bad-luck/#comment-154390</link>
		<dc:creator>TylerA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bubba,
In a lot of other Canes write ups and Chips debate articles a lot of people are still screaming for Kab to be traded away, while at the same time CH.com has posted i think at least 2 articles about how they think Kab is looking like one of the best d-men on the team.  I have to say I agree, hes looked really good on the pp, seems to be skating with confidence and is putting shots up for the guys in front of the net.  Another article also mentions that with Gleason, Pitkanen, and Corvo, locked up in the top 6, it seems that Kabs and Seids are in also, who makes the 6th man, Babchuk, Melichar, or Wallin (I think Wallin could be traded)?  Whats your opinion on Kabs, Seids, and the last spot on the top 6?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bubba,<br />
In a lot of other Canes write ups and Chips debate articles a lot of people are still screaming for Kab to be traded away, while at the same time CH.com has posted i think at least 2 articles about how they think Kab is looking like one of the best d-men on the team.  I have to say I agree, hes looked really good on the pp, seems to be skating with confidence and is putting shots up for the guys in front of the net.  Another article also mentions that with Gleason, Pitkanen, and Corvo, locked up in the top 6, it seems that Kabs and Seids are in also, who makes the 6th man, Babchuk, Melichar, or Wallin (I think Wallin could be traded)?  Whats your opinion on Kabs, Seids, and the last spot on the top 6?</p>
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		<title>By: Mateo</title>
		<link>http://canescountry.com/blog/2008/10/02/carolina-injuries-bad-training-bad-skates-or-bad-luck/#comment-154388</link>
		<dc:creator>Mateo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone is freaking out about the Chip Alexander 3 lines post.  People forget that in 05-06 we rolled 3 lines while dressing 7 defensive players and 2 extra forwards....  it seemed to work just fine back then....  

This is a good post in regards to injury.  It seems like every season since the lockout our team has delt w/ groin pulls and "minor" muscle injuries from the start of training camp into about mid-season....  it's nothing new.

Last season was the worst injury season EVER (I think).  Hopefully this season will be nothing like last season...  although we are already one (J. Williams) in the hole.

The article from the Edmonton Journal seemed like mostly speculation regarding the Williams Injury.  It was all based on hear-say from E. Cole and a phone conversation he had w/ Joe Corvo...  Although it did bring up good points about the new skates...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone is freaking out about the Chip Alexander 3 lines post.  People forget that in 05-06 we rolled 3 lines while dressing 7 defensive players and 2 extra forwards&#8230;.  it seemed to work just fine back then&#8230;.  </p>
<p>This is a good post in regards to injury.  It seems like every season since the lockout our team has delt w/ groin pulls and &#8220;minor&#8221; muscle injuries from the start of training camp into about mid-season&#8230;.  it&#8217;s nothing new.</p>
<p>Last season was the worst injury season EVER (I think).  Hopefully this season will be nothing like last season&#8230;  although we are already one (J. Williams) in the hole.</p>
<p>The article from the Edmonton Journal seemed like mostly speculation regarding the Williams Injury.  It was all based on hear-say from E. Cole and a phone conversation he had w/ Joe Corvo&#8230;  Although it did bring up good points about the new skates&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: janeybell</title>
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		<dc:creator>janeybell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article, Bubba.....but, please oh please can we have pre-game post for Nashville? Chip Alexander seems to think that we only need three lines.....save us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article, Bubba&#8230;..but, please oh please can we have pre-game post for Nashville? Chip Alexander seems to think that we only need three lines&#8230;..save us!</p>
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		<title>By: marc</title>
		<link>http://canescountry.com/blog/2008/10/02/carolina-injuries-bad-training-bad-skates-or-bad-luck/#comment-154381</link>
		<dc:creator>marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 12:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to sell skates at 2 high end pro shops, and it was amazing how many kids / adults playing once a week in a rec league would want the highest end, most expensive skate possible. Luckily, the company I worked for promoted good customer service over making money, and I was able to convince a few that a high end skate isn't necessarily the way to go. They were the happiest customers - the boot would break in properly, no foot problems etc. The ones who bought the higher end that didn't need them were the ones that had the most problems. Not only with injuries, but with the skate itself. I would definitely agree with Guy on this one. Figure skaters had the same problem as well. It reminds me of that old Billy Crystal SNL skit - "It is better to look good than to feel good."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to sell skates at 2 high end pro shops, and it was amazing how many kids / adults playing once a week in a rec league would want the highest end, most expensive skate possible. Luckily, the company I worked for promoted good customer service over making money, and I was able to convince a few that a high end skate isn&#8217;t necessarily the way to go. They were the happiest customers - the boot would break in properly, no foot problems etc. The ones who bought the higher end that didn&#8217;t need them were the ones that had the most problems. Not only with injuries, but with the skate itself. I would definitely agree with Guy on this one. Figure skaters had the same problem as well. It reminds me of that old Billy Crystal SNL skit - &#8220;It is better to look good than to feel good.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Swenk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Swenk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 11:22:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post Bubba, as always. Seems like Whitney starts out every season with a groin issue...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post Bubba, as always. Seems like Whitney starts out every season with a groin issue&#8230;</p>
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